Ex-CIA Agent EXPOSES Epstein, Charlie Kirk, and Mossad’s Influence Over America

Andrew Bustamante shares his perspective on Jeffrey Epstein, suggesting that Epstein was most likely an intelligence asset, though probably not for the CIA or Mossad. Instead, Bustamante leans toward the theory that Epstein was a covert informant for the FBI. He explains that Epstein's deep connections to corrupt politicians in the U.S. and abroad made him valuable to federal authorities who may have leveraged his criminal activities for gathering intelligence or brokering deals to serve larger strategic goals. According to Bustamante, sexual abuse and trafficking were not the primary focus of the FBI in handling Epstein, but rather the potential to use him to expose conspiracies or political corruption.

The guest also highlights the complexity surrounding the release of Epstein-related files. Despite public and political pressure, the release of documents is controlled by the Justice Department, which decides what information becomes public after Congress reviews and redacts the files. Bustamante asserts this process ensures the public will likely never see the full truth, as sensitive details involving high-profile individuals are carefully protected in the name of national security.

Government Secrecy and Public Mistrust

Throughout the conversation, Bustamante emphasizes that government secrecy is a deliberate and long-standing practice. He explains that the U.S. was designed as a representative republic where elected officials hold power over what details the public is allowed to know. Transparency is not a foundational principle in government operations; rather, a small elite group possesses crucial information to maintain control and order within society.

This secrecy contributes to growing public mistrust and skepticism about government effectiveness, especially when classified documents are continuously withheld. Bustamante argues that people must acknowledge that the government is not obligated to tell the truth, and often, the truth is hidden under the justification of national security, preventing ordinary citizens from fully understanding political and intelligence actions.

Failures Leading to 9/11 Attacks

Bustamante discusses the systemic communication failures between the FBI and CIA prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Both agencies had significant intelligence pointing toward an imminent terrorist threat, but they operated in silos with poor information sharing. Differing code names, bureaucratic culture, and interagency rivalry fostered misunderstandings that prevented a comprehensive threat assessment.

He clarifies that the failure was not ignorance or intentional negligence but poor coordination and distrust. Each agency underestimated the other's competence, and intelligence data that one agency collected often remained unknown to the other due to incompatible systems. This tragic miscommunication led to the loss of thousands of lives, revealing critical structural weaknesses within U.S. intelligence.

The Myth of Government and Corruption

The theme of government corruption recurs in Bustamante's interview. He agrees with the notion that the U.S. government is deeply corrupt, although less so than many other nations globally. Bureaucratic interests, political gamesmanship, and insider deals permeate all levels of power, challenging the idea that America is a fair and equal opportunity society. This entrenched corruption is maintained through controlled information and orchestrated polarization, which keeps the electorate divided and distracted.

He draws parallels between criminal enterprises and government organizations, noting that loyalty is often to individuals and factions rather than to the mission or public good. Corruption in political candidacies, governance, and legislation is rampant, which undermines democracy and accountability. Bustamante paints a picture of a system where insiders protect each other, sometimes at the public's expense.

Israel's Role and Influence

On the contentious subject of Israel and Mossad's alleged involvement in controversies like the Charlie Kirk incident, Bustamante pushes back against conspiracy theories blaming Israel. He claims these narratives are conspiracy-driven exaggerations lacking credible evidence and are fueled by current geopolitical tensions and global distrust of Israel, especially following recent events in Gaza.

Bustamante describes Mossad as an exceptionally capable intelligence agency with targeted operational scope, focusing primarily on existential threats from Iran and its proxies. He asserts Mossad would not undertake a risky assassination on a conservative American influencer like Charlie Kirk, as the blowback would be detrimental to Israel's strategic interests, particularly its relationship with the U.S. conservative base.

Intelligence Agencies Compared: CIA vs. Mossad

Bustamante distinguishes between the CIA and Mossad based on scale and mission. While the CIA is far larger, with a broader global footprint and budget, Mossad focuses intensely on a limited geographic region with high specialization in sabotage and assassination. This focus allows Mossad to execute high-risk operations with greater willingness to accept casualties and failures compared to the CIA.

Despite the CIA's superior resources, the Israeli agency's niche expertise and determination in its core priorities make it among the most efficient intelligence services for clandestine sabotage and rapid action. Mossad's operations often have more direct consequences on Israel's immediate national security, while the CIA's scope demands broader strategic intelligence gathering and a more cautious operational risk profile.

Political Polarization and Cooperation Behind the Scenes

Bustamante exposes the theatrical nature of U.S. political polarization, especially between Democrats and Republicans. Though publicly at odds on major issues, many high-ranking politicians maintain friendships and networks that cross party lines. In private, they collaborate and align their interests for mutual benefit, undermining the adversarial image portrayed in media and public discourse.

He explains that this dynamic maintains the political status quo, motivating extreme voter factions to turn out while quietly ensuring lawmakers uphold the system that keeps them in power. Occasional cross-party cooperation on key legislation exemplifies how politics is often about power preservation rather than ideological battles fought in the public eye.

Training and Mindset in the CIA

Bustamante delves into the unique mindset inculcated in CIA operatives, focusing on probabilistic thinking learned from both training and exposure to criminal behavior. CIA officers operate in a world of uncertainty and incomplete information, making decisions based on the greatest odds of success rather than seeking guarantees. This mindset aligns closely with how criminals think, as both must navigate high-risk environments with limited assurance.

He highlights the CIA's emphasis on human interaction skills such as manipulation, motivation, and persuasion, which are essential in managing assets and achieving intelligence goals. Agents develop tools like mirroring and behavioral assessment to build trust and influence targets subtly, demonstrating a sophisticated human intelligence craft beyond mere spy fantasy.

Moral Flexibility and Personal Background

A significant theme in the conversation centers on moral flexibility—a concept Bustamante insists is critical for intelligence officers. Unlike rigid ethical absolutes, moral flexibility allows operatives to adapt their principles to situations to achieve mission objectives. He acknowledges that many officers come from challenging personal backgrounds, with trauma or mental health struggles, and this flexibility is both a survival mechanism and a professional necessity.

Bustamante reveals that CIA recruits individuals willing to navigate the razor-thin line between heroism and illegality. This ambiguity blurs conventional distinctions between right and wrong, emphasizing outcomes over strict morals. He contrasts this with politicians who violate oaths without moral flexibility, which he labels outright immorality.

Economic Realities and National Debt

Reflecting on America's monumental $38 trillion debt, Bustamante connects financial mismanagement to political corruption and economic policy failures. He explains that the U.S., as the first global superpower to face such debt, must confront painful economic restructuring, potentially triggering a second Great Depression as the only viable reset. Printing more money currently masks the problem but does not resolve underlying structural imbalance.

He underscores that the wealthy benefit disproportionately due to asset inflation, while middle and lower classes suffer diminishing purchasing power. Bustamante warns that without collective acknowledgment and action to share the burden of economic pain, wealth inequality will deepen, and the middle class risks collapse.

CIA Skills Applied to Business Success

After leaving the agency, Bustamante recounts his challenging transition into civilian life, initially feeling his espionage skills had no market value. Yet, he eventually leveraged those intelligence training skills into business success, impressively gaining eight promotions in six years through rapid learning, strategic influence, and recruiting advocates to support his goals.

He founded Everyday Spy, a brand and consultancy aimed at teaching spy skills—such as persuasion, manipulation, and strategic thinking—to entrepreneurs and business leaders. Bustamante argues these skills give executives asymmetric advantages, enabling them to scale their companies more effectively by managing people and anticipating threats, showcasing the direct relevance of intelligence methods in competitive business environments.

Family Life and Publishing the CIA Memoir

Bustamante shares insights into his personal life, including meeting his wife during CIA onboarding and raising a child while both served undercover. He reflects candidly on the agency's lack of accommodation for family life, describing how their child became more of a mission distraction than a factor the CIA supported. Both eventually left to prioritize their family.

He also discusses the challenges of publishing their memoir, "Shadow Cell," which details secret CIA operations and counterintelligence moles never before publicly revealed. The book took three years to get cleared by the CIA, involving tense negotiations over sensitive content. Their story has since become a bestseller, giving a rare glimpse inside the clandestine service while navigating the balance between transparency and operational security.